Height/Weight Restrictions & Shopping for the "Perfect Fit"

17 posts / 0 new
Last post
rgrwng
rgrwng's picture
Offline
Joined: 2011-08-18
Country: USA
Height/Weight Restrictions & Shopping for the "Perfect Fit"

I was looking at Dahons the other day for the first time, and while they had great weight and height support, i am closer to the max, if not already over the limit (possibly, i know i am nearing the max).

I live out in central California, and am thinking of getting myself a bike for shorter trips to my parents' house and short trips to McDonald's, instead of using my car. I am usually slumming around at home playing video games, so i do not get any excerise (in fact, i have not exerted myself beyond a light sweat since i was 15). I am 27 this year, and am 6'4", weighing in around 210-215LBs (might be more since i weigh myself maybe 2 times/year), which is nearing the maximum of the Dahon bikes.

Sorry to mention the other brand, but i could not register into their forum, and after more searching, found Tern's website. I think the bikes look great, but what are the height and weight restrictions? I am worried that i might be able to ride any of them if they are made for riders lighter/shorter than myself.

Looking at all of the bikes, it looks like the larger ones are going to be out of my price range for sure (assumed), and i am looking foward to purchasing a bike from Tern as soon as they become available. My current allotted budget can go as high as maybe $400-500 USD (if i eat one meal every day for the next month), but i'd like to find a simple, easy to care for model for say, 5-10 mile round trips. I do not make much money at my current job, and the local stores around here do not have a great selection. I got interested in folding bikes recently when researching for a new bike to get out of the house with.

I had another question about buying spare parts, but i am sure this will be answered by the community as bikes are released and bought, so it's not a primary concern at the moment.

Thanks for any help you can give, and look foward to seeing your collection thrive!

 

- ROGER WONG from Livermore, California -

 

josh.hon
Offline
Team Tern
Joined: 2011-08-01
Country: Taiwan

HI Roger,

That’s great that you are thinking about taking a bike for short trips. I think you’ll find that the more you ride, the more you enjoy it. And it’ll save you money and get you some exercise. All of our bikes will handle your weight but if you are 6’4” with long legs, you might find the 20” bikes just a bit short. If you have slightly shorter legs, then you’ll just fit a 20” bike. Alternatively, you can consider the Large size Joe bikes.

The bikes in your price range include the Link C7, Link D8, Joe C21 and Joe D24.

Enginator
Enginator's picture
Offline
Joined: 2011-08-10
Country: USA

My daughter just got a bicycle that was paid for by her workplace to encourage exercise. This might be a program that Tern tries to cultivate as a target for bikes to keep at the office for those lunch trips! I realize this is not a new concept to former DaHon folks or should I say the enlightened at Tern but it is a potential market!

I know some makers and distributors front bikes for their employees if they pledge to ride them! This is a great program.

Slim

__________________

Slim Chasteen,

 Promoting Bicycling for over 50 years!

 Bicycling Expert Witness and Shop Owner

Speed P8 with Bike Friday Samsonite trailer case for air travel. Still considering which is best Tern for hard case travel

josh.hon
Offline
Team Tern
Joined: 2011-08-01
Country: Taiwan

Hi Slim,

We think its an amazing idea for companies to get behind Bike to Work programs. We do it ourselves for all Tern Team Members. Anybody who wants to ride to work gets a free Tern. The catch is that you need to commit to a number of days/week that you’ll ride. The more days you commit to, the more expensive a bike you can choose. If you ride everyday, you can choose any Tern bike in the range, even the US $3000+ Verge X20. As you can imagine, quite a lot of people in the office take advantage of this program.

If there are any companies interested in this, we’re happy to work with them and help them set up the program.

Fernzire
Offline
Joined: 2011-09-02
Country: USA

I have a concern with the joint connecting the handle bar to the bike, my question is how secure is it? I noticed that it does not have a device to hold it in place once it is in the riding position. I don't want it folding down on me if I jump off a curb or make a sharp turn. I am not the guy buying a case for my bike so it wont get scratches, I use and sometimes abuse my bikes. I mostly jump off curbs, also recently the pedals of a dahon bike failed when I was pedaling standing up. I used it like a typical bmx bike. I want to know how much punishment these new bikes can take before a component comes out of place, I'm not looking for style but for performance.

HGR3inOK
Offline
Joined: 2011-08-02
Country: USA

Fernzire wrote:
... recently the pedals of a dahon bike failed when I was pedaling standing up. I used it like a typical bmx bike. ...


Folders are not BMX bikes.  They are not designed for that type of riding.  Keep in mind that if you fold a BMX bike parts of it will likely fail. smiley


-HANK RYAN-


Norman, Oklahoma  USA

__________________

DISCLOSURE: I have an ownership interest in an independent bike shop that is an authorized dealer for Raleigh, Diamondback, Eastern, Hoffman, Dahon, Tern, Brompton & Xtracycle. See: http://www.alsbicycles.com/about/norman-pg237.htm 

NorCal Steve
Offline
Joined: 2011-09-15
Country: USA

Fernzire wrote:


I have a concern with the joint connecting the handle bar to the bike, my question is how secure is it? I noticed that it does not have a device to hold it in place once it is in the riding position. I don't want it folding down on me if I jump off a curb or make a sharp turn.


 


There is a product - the 'safety handlepost latch' or just 'handlepost latch'. Don't know if it's factory or aftermarket but my newly acquired used p8 has it.


 


I too am trying to ascertain the limits of these bikes after just picking up a folder and having come to the conclusion that these bikes work pretty darn well. My bike is tempting me to take that shortcut over the curb etc. and I'm just not sure if I should go there or not. The worst thing that happens on conventional bikes during conventional misdeeds is a bent rim... A trashed frame sure would hurt for a little exuberance. So now that I'm sold on the folding part and wanting to get a fresh ride (aka Tern), I need to determine the reliability part - Do I get a model that won't tempt me or do I get a jack-of-all-trades that allows for the occassional wild-ride? 

Fernzire
Offline
Joined: 2011-09-02
Country: USA

that last part, genuinely funny smiley. I admit I had high expectations for my first folding bike, first time I dropped that kind of cash for quality bike. I know now that folding bikes do have their limitations, or at least thier components do. It's a shame that these useful bikes are delicate at times.

Fernzire
Offline
Joined: 2011-09-02
Country: USA

NorCal Steve wrote:

 I need to determine the reliability part - Do I get a model that won't tempt me or do I get a jack-of-all-trades that allows for the occassional wild-ride? 

I feel that the image that tern portays so far is an image of freedom, freedom from the urban jungle and hopefully this is reflected well on their bikes not only in looks but in performance in all models. personally I feel that yes, my 400+ bike should be able to handle basic things that a walmart child's bike can, with the added feature of portability. Sometimes I choose to jump curbs out of convenience, the handle bar should stay in place. If I want to pedal fast down an empty street, I should't worry that my pedals are going to fall off. The Frame is solid. It's just the components that worry me. I have high hopes for tern, and am eager to get my hands on a bike as soon as they hit stores. 

NorCal Steve
Offline
Joined: 2011-09-15
Country: USA

Fernzire wrote:


freedom from the urban jungle  



Welcome to my jungle smiley


26


25

josh.hon
Offline
Team Tern
Joined: 2011-08-01
Country: Taiwan

Hi Fernzire,

A couple of thoughts:

1. Folding pedals are a weak link of most folding bikes. They just aren’t built to withstand BMX riding although obviously, they shouldn’t break in normal riding. If you need more durability, look at MKS quick release pedals as found on our Verge S11i bike but as usual, quality costs.

2. All of our handlepost joints have a secondary safety mechanism that keeps the latch locked closed while you are riding. You can’t see it because it’s built into our latch and is very low profile.

3. Of all the advantages that our new Tern bikes offer, the greatest advantage is the strength and durability of our frame and handlepost folding joints. They are super strong, really easy to use, very precisely manufactured, and easily serviceable. Of course that doesn’t mean we recommend BMX style riding, but they’ll stand up to hard usage.

The true test is a test ride. Take one for a spin and let us know what you think.

Steveroot
Offline
Joined: 2011-08-01
Country: USA

Josh said: "1. Folding pedals are a weak link of most folding bikes. They just aren’t built to withstand BMX riding although obviously, they shouldn’t break in normal riding. If you need more durability, look at MKS quick release pedals as found on our Verge S11i bike but as usual, quality costs."

I second the MKS pedal recommendation. I'm using a pair that has about 13,000 miles on it... "thirteen THOUSAND". Some servicing was required for my pair, as I ride in a lot of bad weather especially in the winter, but these are good, strong, durable pedals. They're not *that* expensive, either.

 

Josh also said: "The true test is a test ride. Take one for a spin and let us know what you think."

I'd agree, but I think the test ride has to be a few thousand miles long. ;-)

I'm still finding out things about my Mu XL after almost 9,000 miles. Of course, I knew I liked it the first time I rode it, so I guess Josh is right!

Steve

__________________

**Life is Unfolding**

Tern Verge S11i (2013), Dahon Mu XL (2006), Dahon Helios XL (2003), Strida 2 (2002), Airborne Carpe Diem (2002), Trek 6000 (2000)

Keith C. Johns
Keith C. Johns's picture
Offline
Joined: 2011-08-05
Country: USA

I was eager to add folding pedals or quick release pedals to one of my older Dahons, originally with a folding right crank which I had replaced with a non-folding crank, but found in typical usage that I rarely needed the extra space afforded by folding the pedals. Then I realized that by carrying a wrench with me, I could remove the standard pedal whenever I really needed the extra space. Typically I fold my bike in half and roll it forward and it is sufficiently small and portable for most of the places I visit. Only rarely do I need to make it fully compact, and those times have typically been when I had more time to do the folding (and stuffing into a bag or trunk of a car), so the extra effort to remove a whole pedal was not a problem.

I will note that folding pedals still stick out about half their original lengths, so they save only about two inches, I think. Even quick release pedals still stick out at least one inch. So when I remove a pedal I end up with a still smaller fold, when needed. I noted that at one time early Dahons came with a large circular plastic "wrench" permanently on the inside of the right pedal between it and the crank which could be used to unscrew the pedal; this was after the folding crank approach was abandoned and before folding pedals were added.

I would say that many people might be in the same place as am I, and perhaps prefer to use a standard pedal which is designed to hold up longer rather than a design compromised for folding purposes. However, I guess it is best to sell the bikes with folding pedals, and assume quick optimally compact folds are the primary reason why they chose a folding bike; they can always later trade off to a preferred pedal type, for instance one with toe clips, or clipless pedals and work out what is most important to them then.

 

Enginator
Enginator's picture
Offline
Joined: 2011-08-10
Country: USA

The folding areas look better engineered and secure thatn the "improved" ones that were onth late model DaHons.

__________________

Slim Chasteen,

 Promoting Bicycling for over 50 years!

 Bicycling Expert Witness and Shop Owner

Speed P8 with Bike Friday Samsonite trailer case for air travel. Still considering which is best Tern for hard case travel

josh.hon
Offline
Team Tern
Joined: 2011-08-01
Country: Taiwan

Enginator wrote:

The folding areas look better engineered and secure thatn the "improved" ones that were onth late model DaHons.

 

The proof is in the ride.

rgrwng
rgrwng's picture
Offline
Joined: 2011-08-18
Country: USA

Due to unforseen circumstances, i would like to check if there are any sub 300$ USD bikes. I ran into some financial trouble since my last forum vist, and its damned near ate up my finances.

i noticed some stores will be distributing bikes here in the Bay Area, but they do not list any bikes yet. are they slated for 2012? Might give me some time to re-save up for a bike.

josh.hon
Offline
Team Tern
Joined: 2011-08-01
Country: Taiwan

Hi Roger,

Sorry to hear about the troubles. Our bikes start at about US $450. Bikes should start arriving in stores by about the next week or so. Best is to call them and talk to them.

Login or register to post comments